than in any of the previously election. that always brings a lot of students out. but they're working very, very hard here, the obama campaign has got a very, very strong game in wisconsin. >> any change in the environment since the recall election versus what's going to happen in five weeks plus? >> i think it has changed tremendously, there was a huge financial advantage for the republicans and the recall. although mitt romney has now begun spending here in wisconsin for many, many weeks, it was really quiet here. and it was only after they chose paul ryan as his vice presidential candidate that he started spending money here. so we're seeing advertising for both camps, so you're also seeing a president making a concerted effort. the president's been here twice in the last three weeks. i'm very confident that he's going to win. >> bill clinton, he's a big factor in the race, he campaigned for you in the recall electi election. >> well, i think he's a great asset and you can send bill clinton anywhere in this country and p